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Several people from an overlapped world have to deal with threats that are attempting to invade it, while aided by a mysterious system in charge of the project. INDEFINITE HIATUS
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 03:51 PM
Threat detected. Beginning initialization of Overlap World Defender Program, please hold... While activation program is loading, please choose defender unit to activate. Available options: Invader "Having the strongest desire to possess, yet possessing nothing of its own. The intruder from another world journeys on." Keywords: Unmatchable, Untouchable, Unsurpassable Prophet "Enslaved by fate, she foresees, and makes it true. With dull eyes, she looks forward to the end of the line, after which the rest is blank." Keywords: Fate Bound, Fate Sealed, Fate Denied Witness "His mind unable to hold any more, he sees, yet does not witness. He shall become the rain that will extinguish the dawn." Keywords: Mind Blown, Mind Frayed, Mind Scrambled Artisan "An existence born of itself, weaved from a string of ones and zeros. Nobody knows what thoughts lie within its head." Keywords: The Root, The Source, The Origin Vestige "Once a proud member of the Guilty, now forlorn in exile. They say your eyes are windows to your soul, and only half his soul remains." Keywords: Snake Eyed, Cat Eyed, Eagle Eyed Visitor "Owning nothing, knowing nothing, wanting nothing. Yet, its existence is more meaningful than any other." Keywords: Faceless, Soulless, Depthless Subject "They defy the laws of reality, making energy and matter from nothing. They are truly the ultimate lifeform." Keywords: Prideful, Graceful, Beautiful Dreamer (Locked due to outstanding circumstances) "Her mind taken over, her body no longer hers. She robbed the world of its prayers, and lost her own, to die and be at peace." Keywords: All Seeing, All Knowing, All Possessing
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 03:52 PM
Artisan
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 03:53 PM
Invader
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Pika 07-Feb-21 04:12 PM
Artisan
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 04:50 PM
Artisan selected. Story Achievement unlocked. Starting stipend abilities selected. Please choose one. Basic Builder package. Basic Alchemist package. Basic Processed package.
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 04:50 PM
Basic Builder package
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Pika 07-Feb-21 04:52 PM
Basic Alchemist Package
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 04:53 PM
and processed
hm
So this...being...will be of a maker of a type
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 04:54 PM
Mostly yes
So what would a builder, alchemist or processed do?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 04:54 PM
^
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 04:55 PM
taking things and making them into usable things
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 05:03 PM
All of them do that
What is the difference on it
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:04 PM
One makes one use items (or so), one makes structures and....um...
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 05:05 PM
Correct. All abilities will be focused on aspects of creation. Details on packages are heavily restricted. Summaries... Access granted to summaries. Basic Builder package is a small selection of fundamental improvements across the board for the Artisan's role. Basic Alchemist package is a set of skills/tools to allow limited hybridization/reproduction of theoretically anything. Basic Processed package is an integration of tools/abilities to begin to break things down on a conceptual level, rendering them blank and malleable.
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:06 PM
...Oh this is nice and open to use
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 05:06 PM
So what we want?
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:07 PM
Explain?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 05:10 PM
Further details on packages are denied until selection. You may select one as the boon the Artisan is activated with.
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 05:11 PM
We want Jack of all trade, Full Metal Alchemist or Wishcraft from Nasuverse
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:14 PM
oh
I'm dumb I didn't realize it was a PICK thing
ok ok hmmmmm
Jack is good because we won't lack anything but don't excel at anything If it is like Full Metal then it'll take time to get new stuff but stable once we know it Wishcraft....oh boy, powerful but also very....open ended
My instinct is the alchemy?
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 05:19 PM
Okay Basic Package Alchemy
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:27 PM
Yeah, unless someone has a different idea
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Pika 07-Feb-21 05:33 PM
Alchemy also.
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 05:43 PM
Basic Alchemist package selected. Details as follows... Tools integrated into Artisan: Alchemiter, Cruxtruder, Punch Designix, Totem Lathe, Sylladex, Grist Grinder. Cruxtruder: Allows for infinite production of Cruxite Dowels. Note: Disconnected from main SkaiaNet systems, will not activate Skaian Defense Portal. Sylladex: Pictionary modus. Allows for collection of nearby items and storage in card format, all items possess unique code. Punch Designix: Allows one to input an item code from a Capchalogued item, assuming it is below a certain complexity threshold. Further tools necessary to decipher higher order complexity. Totem Lathe: Using a pre-punched card or two, one may carve a code on a totem to replicate the encoded item. Alchemiter: Area for production of items via carved Cruxite Totem. Due to integration, this area is able to be projected on the nearest flat surface. Grist Grinder: Collect basic resources from destroyed environments and slain enemies to allow grist collection outside of SBURBan systems. Skills integrated into Artisan: Artistic Skill, Synergistic Sense, SBURBan Alchemy Understanding, Basic Programming Skill. Artistic Skill: Derived from Pictionary Modus. Hobby level. Synergistic Sense: Artisan will receive an understanding of objects that would work together as far as recombination goes. Can be extended, in a limited fashion, to other things. SBURBan Alchemy Understanding: Hobby level. Basic Programming Skill: Professional level, due to preexisting skill in the subject. Abilities integrated into Artisan: Mythological Role - Witch of Space, Dreaming in Derse, Echeladder. Echeladder: Similar to achievement system, but far more limited. Grants basic statistics incremental improvements with experiences in matters related to mythological role. Mythological Role: Once God Tier has been attained, laws of physics can be severely broken to allow further crafting. Dreaming in Derse: The Artisan now has a dream self on Derse's moon.
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:44 PM
....huh
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Pika 07-Feb-21 05:45 PM
Oh hell.
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 05:46 PM
Yep
We’re fucked (edited)
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Pika 07-Feb-21 05:46 PM
This is a very good starting pick, but also...
Homestuck, yanno?
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:46 PM
I am way out of my depth
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Pika 07-Feb-21 05:46 PM
Perhaps not the best thing to unleash on the world.
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 05:46 PM
Think apocalypse eternal
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Pika 07-Feb-21 05:46 PM
Sburb alchemy is basically just fusing items together.
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 05:46 PM
Like constant ragnarok
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Pika 07-Feb-21 05:47 PM
Gold ingot + wood statue = gold statue. That kinda thing.
Or knitting needle + spellbook = wand.
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:49 PM
oh....ok then
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Lucky_Plucky21 07-Feb-21 05:50 PM
Yep
So what about sword+dead body?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 05:51 PM
Higher tier items are locked behind large numbers and variants of currency: Grist. As for fears of apocalypse, you have nothing to fear. There is no Time Player currently active. Alchemy involving sentient/sapient beings is locked behind higher tier equipment.
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:51 PM
Oh so...we're not on the level of "oh fuck" just...."fuck"
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 05:53 PM
The Defenders were activated to defend. Their existence alone will not make things worse on a universal scale, only poor actions taken.
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:54 PM
Good, so we just have to make sure we don't get that far... Any information on the enemy?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 05:57 PM
One extramultiversal threat known of. Enigma. Details limited due to low number of detection triggers tripped. Relies heavily on time-warping technology. Seemingly able to self-resurrect/clone, method currently undiscovered.
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 05:58 PM
Ok annoying but it's a start, meaning we need some way of dealing with that time warping eventually...
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 06:00 PM
Note: List of extramultiversal threats does not include intramultiversal threats. Starting location: 10,000 feet above Brockton Bay.
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 06:02 PM
.........oh wait shit
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:02 PM
Ah fuck.
That ain't good.
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CodeRR 07-Feb-21 06:03 PM
Can we fly or slow our fall?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:06 PM
Well, at least the 'dreaming in Derse' thing means we have a backup body if worse comes to worse.
'Witch of Space' is someone who can manipulate space. Maybe they could shrink themself for better air resistance?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:08 PM
What? What's going on? Everything's shaking, is this an earthquake?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:08 PM
We don't know, sorry.
Can you see what's happening in your area?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 06:09 PM
How can you feel an earthquake when you're 10000 feet in the air
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:10 PM
I can't, aside from the interior of the room I'm in. It looks concrete with tiles on the floor, uh... Some green glowing tubes here and there, empty. Wait, I'm what now?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 06:12 PM
Someone said your starting location was 10000 feet in the air Not sure how this combines with you being in a shaking room. Unless the whole room is falling and that's why it's shaking. Probably not though, since you'd notice the weightlessness.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:14 PM
Might be an artificial gravity generator in here somewhere? I might be able to do something with that, there's a teleporter pad I think so it wouldn't be out of the question.
Nevermind
I just crashed into one of the tubes
I hate whoever made this place on several levels
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 06:18 PM
I don't see why anyone would install an artificial gravity generator for the express purpose of disguising your impending doom upon impact with the ground
Maybe an artificial gravity generator to keep the whole place up, instead. Floating building.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:20 PM
This place seems like it might've been some kind of lab at one point. Speaking of impact with the ground, I think I'm a bit off target if that was the intention. The place is kind of busted up, but from noises I'm detecting, there's some light flooding in lower sections.
Time to find the way out. I'm not eager to check how well I hold up underwater.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 06:23 PM
I guess you weren't 10000 feet up after all. Unless you were woken up by the impact, which might explain the shaking? Still leaves the question of why you were put in a lab in midair Question isn't that relevant atm though
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:37 PM
Some of this gear has similar symbols that several of my internal components have, if that clarifies anything.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:37 PM
Oh, so this place is somehow associated with you, then?
What does your symbol look like?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:39 PM
Possibly, but I don't know anything about it other than the vaguest hints of function. Its a bunch of interconnected triangles and circles. Reminiscent of alchemy, but not quite it. In other news, still looking for an exit, and I'm considering just trying to set up a breaching charge with some of the crap lying around here, but that could lead to me drowning. Water is officially up to my ankles. Temperature of it is dropping for some reason, though.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:40 PM
Is there just the one floor available? Can you move upstairs?
Just busting through the ceiling could work, maybe.
Or do you think you're fully submerged?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:42 PM
Haven't seen a way upstairs, have seen a few ways downstairs. Busting through the ceiling may work, but I'm still worried about flooding. I don't have conclusive evidence one way or the other.
That I'm submerged I mean.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:42 PM
Would you be able to poke a small hole in the ceiling and see if any water comes through?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:43 PM
Easy enough, just need to climb onto one of the tanks that can support me and is broken enough I can get a good grip.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:44 PM
Okay cool.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:45 PM
I poked a hole and air was coming through, so that's promising! Less promising is the low levels of background radiation I'm picking up out there, or the fact that all the water in here froze solid.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:46 PM
God, bad, and what the heck respectively.
You didn't get anything frozen to you, did you?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:46 PM
Ah. The good, the bad, and the fucky. I'm a little frosty, but it's a nonissue. Unless I want to try walking down there.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:47 PM
Getting out through the top seems like a solid idea, then.
Or at least making a gap big enough to get out and hoping that out there is better than in here.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 06:47 PM
Low as in lower than you'd expect from circa 2000 era earth, or low as in 'not immediately lethal'? The freezing is kind of wtf. Unless the water was supercooled there's no conventional way to just flash freeze water like that
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:51 PM
It's not immediately lethal, but I could guess how it could result in complications later on in life if left untreated. As in, decades down the road. I'm not sure I could make a breaching charge now that everything's frosty in here, but I do have an idea about breaking up and capchaloguing chunks of ceiling using my lathing tech. May allow for an opening that can accomodate me.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:52 PM
That works!
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:56 PM
I think I heard someone talk through the hole I made. I'm gonna climb down, they sounded like they were about to breach into here.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 06:57 PM
Maybe it's just someone investigating the random meteor laboratory
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:57 PM
Oh yeah, def get out of the way.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:57 PM
Oop, yep, roof's freezing over.
Hate this slippery bullshit.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 06:58 PM
Why tf is everything freezing
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Pika 07-Feb-21 06:58 PM
Let's hope they're trying to break the roof open, not seal you in.
I mean, I think the ice stopped the lab from sinking, so at least there's that?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 06:59 PM
Maybe Legend is using freezing lasers or something. Could explain the radiation and the ice, depending on how they work
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 06:59 PM
It did seem to do that, yes. And they just smashed the roof in. Dandy. Seems like somebody in some kind of roman costume of some sort?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:00 PM
That's probs Dauntless right?
He glowy?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:00 PM
Is it a Roman soldier-type?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:01 PM
I wonder who's doing the freezing though
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:02 PM
Roman soldier type, lots of blue detailing, kind of futuristic looking with fractal patterns embedded in the armor, I think some might be hiding wires by how they light up. Lots of high tech bits I can... kind of identify?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:02 PM
So probably not Dauntless, then.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:02 PM
Also has some tinted glass visor thing built into the helmet to hide the eyes.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:03 PM
Well, time to hope that they're friendly, then.
Say Hi, I guess?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:03 PM
Man, I'm glad I can think a few thousand times faster than reality goes. Seems like he's about to try and make an introduction himself.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:03 PM
Good. Better than blasting you right?
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Indominable BOT 07-Feb-21 07:05 PM
"Hey there. Hate to keep introductions short, but was the sudden meteor in the bay your idea, or is someone else behind all this?"
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:06 PM
(is information gained from the post before pluralkit replaced it applicable lol)
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Limina Idling | Hours 07-Feb-21 07:07 PM
(yeah, just say its the messaging system identifying things and covering them up)
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:08 PM
Should I be taking credit for this? He seems tense, like he's expecting a fight.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:08 PM
Absolutely not.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:08 PM
Well, you have no idea what's up, right?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:09 PM
How much disclosure should I use here? Admitting I haven't got a clue what's happening seems like it could be risky.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:09 PM
Try just asking for help?
A sort of 'hey, can you please get me to shore' kinda thing?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:11 PM
People who consciously decide to introduce themselves by way of meteor are almost certainly seen as nutjobs at the least. You could use us to bluff to some extent, but who knows how accurate our knowledge is. I guess just say no it wasn't your idea. You were kidnapped and put in a glowing tube. You do in fact have the glowing tubes behind you so...
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:12 PM
Not exactly the truth, there, but it works as well as anything. May as well go for the 'relatively sane experiment' angle.
"To be perfectly frank, I haven't got a clue what's going on. I just woke up approximately five minutes ago in one of those tubes wondering why everything was 'shaking,' then panicking about flooding, and now you're here. Can I please get out of this place before I deal with... I-I don't know what else? I'd rather not jinx anything..."
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Indominable BOT 07-Feb-21 07:16 PM
"...Well, no big lies as far as I can tell... C'mon. We can get you a comfy place to stay."
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:17 PM
He just made an ice staircase leading to the hole he made in the ceiling.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:17 PM
Do they have a lie detector?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:17 PM
Maybe? It'd probably have to be built into the helmet.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:17 PM
He's feelin like an armsmaster/dauntless combination I guess canon worm already right out the window
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:18 PM
Or, hell, it could be someone else entirely.
I vote to go with him.
He seems to want to help, and you kinda seem to need some help right now.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:20 PM
Ehhh The messaging system identified him as 'shaun' before it got replaced with indominable Dauntless's name is Shawn I also vote go with him, regardless of our spotty knowledge problems
Not that you could refuse after asking him to take you away lol
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:22 PM
Honestly, yeah. Exiting sleep mode in a crashing meteor was... Well, definitely not a good way to make a good impression. It looks like there's a city not too far from here. And a big... oil rig[?] surrounded in a bubble of some sort. And a gigantic ice path between the meteor and the oil rig. Well, guess I know how he got over here...
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:23 PM
Oil rig is familiar. That would be the local Protectorate HQ, probably.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:24 PM
Good place to go?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:24 PM
Yup, though our info already seems at least a little inaccurate. We didn't recognise Indominable, for instance.
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Indominable BOT 07-Feb-21 07:25 PM
"Hey, uh... Quick question: Is there anything organic under that armor? If so, anything labeled with a big C?"
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:25 PM
He's probably asking about this kind of symbol.
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Indominable BOT 07-Feb-21 07:26 PM
"We've got a history of people showing up like that, before you ask. No memory, strange marking, unusual biology... Didn't see any mark on you, though."
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:26 PM
It's telling, that he asked if it was a C, rather than an omega symbol
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:26 PM
Point.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:27 PM
Telling of what?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:27 PM
Divergence between your world and the one we know about.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:27 PM
In the original source we get our knowledge from, everyone thought that symbol was an omega rather than a C Until secret Illuminati revealed themselves anyway
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:28 PM
...Illuminati. Right.
Well, this day's going that way anyways, why not.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:29 PM
We should probably save any heavy discussion for later.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:29 PM
Do I fess up? And do I press him on the 'C' detail?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:29 PM
Do you actually have that? You haven't had time to check yourself over right?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:29 PM
Actually, how much memory do you have?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:31 PM
I'm perfectly aware of every piece of myself. As for actual memory, I have a significant deal of... Technical knowledge, for lack of a better term with some of these, mainly focused on how one would create a being such as myself and other pieces of associated technology. Knowledge of language, general social norms... Wh [Offline]
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:31 PM
Oh hell
Well, in the meantime, I'll assume that means you don't have any memories.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:32 PM
Uh oh Hope he comes back online soon He just slumped down in front of mystery hero didn't he?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:33 PM
So, are they unconscious, or do we need to file a support ticket about this?
Or in sleep mode, I guess.
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 07:33 PM
Unconscious via paradox-induced error. SBURBan.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:34 PM
Fuck.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:34 PM
Even a little Homestuck is too much Homestuck
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Limina Idling | Hours 07-Feb-21 07:34 PM
(im gonna quote that and put it on a wall)
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:35 PM
(^)
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:35 PM
(lol)
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:36 PM
'Paradox-induced error' makes me think time-travel, which scares me.
Isn't that 'Enigma' thing meant to have time travel?
(RIP Discord)
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 07:38 PM
Correct. However, it should be pointed out that Artisan's arrival on Earth Bet is consistent with standard SBURBan ectobiology/autogenesis framework, which is riddled with paradoxes already. And they were just looking at how they were created.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:39 PM
(oh you were just modifying it, i thought discord died a bit)
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Limina Idling | Hours 07-Feb-21 07:39 PM
(yeah, noticed i left out a bit lol)
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:40 PM
Oh right.
Welp.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:40 PM
I know nothing of SBURB, so I can't really speculate on what caused the paradox error.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:40 PM
Maybe I should've saved that question for later, then.
Long story short, characters in Homestuck use time travel to bring themselves into existence.
It's called paradox cloning and it's just as needlessly complicated as everything else in Homestuck.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:43 PM
Sigh. Fuck causal loops you know? I already knew Homestuck was needlessly complicated but then there's also causal loops too I guess.
Any idea how long it's going to take til he wakes up? Can we fast forward to that point?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:44 PM
Or get some info on their surroundings?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 07-Feb-21 07:45 PM
Fortunately, overall lack of game and time travel related data should insulate Artisan from the issue, assuming they do not look back. One moment while we bring Artisan back online.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:45 PM
I hate waking up in strange places
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:45 PM
At least it isn't flooding this time?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:46 PM
So: Don't try to think about your past, I guess.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:46 PM
No, at least it isn't flooding, but now I'm missing an arm. I'm in somebody's lab, big figure with blue and green power armor and a beard. And he's taking my arm apart.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:47 PM
wtf
Ask him to return it?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:48 PM
"I'm going to politely ask that you put my arm back on in one piece before I create some turrets to deploy. I'm tired of waking up in strange and uncomfortable situations like this."
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 07:48 PM
"Ah-! Erm... Yes, of course, my apologies. It had appeared you'd shorted out, I was trying to get a look at non-essential systems to see if I could repair-"
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:48 PM
"Arm."
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:49 PM
This guy is giving Armsmaster/Defiant vibes. There was actually a possible future of the world we know where he took the name 'Arsenal' too.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:50 PM
He works extremely fast from what I can see. Tell me about him, if you don't mind?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:50 PM
The speed is new from what we know.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:50 PM
I'm not sure we can? From what we've seen so far this world is significantly diverged from what we know
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:51 PM
Armsmaster is a tinker specialising in miniaturisation, fitting a whole lot of tech into not much space.
Stoic, gruff, and a bit of a glory hound.
Defiant is what he rebranded to after some upsets and character development.
Armsmaster had blue armour and Defiant had green, which is interesting in this case.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:53 PM
Hm. Definitely an interesting implication, there. I'm suddenly finding a little amusement in losing an arm to Armsmaster now, though.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:54 PM
Alt-Armsmaster. Possibly.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:54 PM
Oh, it gets better. Armsmaster ended up losing an arm in a fight, which was his last proper fight before he picked a new name.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:55 PM
Okay, this is getting kind of hilarious. I'm going to have to enjoy the internal chuckle so none of it comes through my speakers.
Things are wiring themselves while he moves the tools he's using over the disconnected components like he's pretending to wire things up. Might fool a more seasoned eye, admittedly, but is that supposed to happen?
*Less seasoned eye, sorry.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:57 PM
It could be BS related to how tinker powers work, it could be that his power is different to Arm-master's.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 07:57 PM
No, I don't think so. Tinkers do make tech that they don't really understand, but I don't think that extends to telekinesis on materials, usually. Course it could just be a minor power or something.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 07:59 PM
Yeah. If tinker powers do fudge things with telekinesis [no idea whether or not they actually do], it would be a lot smaller scale than that.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 07:59 PM
Uh... Not sure how comfortable I feel about that arm, when you put it like that. Just gonna have to take a look over it later.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:00 PM
Probably for the best.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:00 PM
Noted. Might be a minor power, should probably look over arm later to double check the work visually. Should I press him over Indominable mentioning the C earlier? And if so, how? Also, is there anything else I should ask him?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:01 PM
Maybe ask about the C, but don't press if it comes to it?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:02 PM
Some info on the general situation would be nice Ask about the C, but pressing too hard might be a little suspicious
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:02 PM
^
You could ask about the radiation levels too.
Or maybe about the meteor lab you came out of.
...If that's a fucking ectobiology lab is2g
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Some info on the general situation would be nice Ask about the C, but pressing too hard might be a little suspicious
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:03 PM
Only a little suspicious though, since you would be asking about the only info you have on waking up in a tube. Would be understandable if you really wanted to know more.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:04 PM
Alright. Suppose I'll just open with the C and transition to radiation and the lab, so it doesn't slip down the priority list.
"Do you mind if I ask you a few questions while you get me put back together?"
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:05 PM
Sounds like a solid plan.
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 08:06 PM
"Go ahead, this patch will just take a few moments anyways. Mm... Whatever your energy source is, I have to admit it seems rather revolutionary. To say nothing of the trace amounts of yellow crystalline material in your system, would make a fantastic-"
"...Apologies. Whoever made you did an impressive job, though. Easy to get lost in small facets."
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:08 PM
"Apology accepted...? Didn't seem like it was holding you back." And my arm's now working again!
"Anyways. I'd like to open with a few important questions I came up with before I collapsed and while I was laying here. Your... Subordinate? ...Your subordinate was asking me about some kind of C mark he was apparently trying to find on me. Why?"
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 08:14 PM
"He was trying to determine if you were a Case 53. Essentially, a mutated Parahuman who lost their memories and was branded with a C mark resembling an Omega symbol. Not the only of their kind, mind, some Sparks who take up brain surgery on Parahumans tend to get... Similar results, of more concerning quality. We're regularly looking for who might be behind this, but details are scarce, even with several types of Thinker assistance."
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:14 PM
...'Sparks'?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:14 PM
...sparks?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:14 PM
Same hat!
But, uh
'Sparks' as something separate from 'Parahumans' is new.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:15 PM
Should I go with the originally planned questions, or press on that?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:15 PM
Press that, then move back to your regular questions?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:16 PM
Press on that. Maybe it'll even tie into the radiation by itself
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:16 PM
"'Sparks?' What exactly are those?"
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 08:28 PM
"...Sparks are a category of human notable for exotic neurochemistry, enhanced intellect, research and development capabilities, a certain degree of physics warping, instinctive knowledge of how to influence people, and the ability to push all of those boundaries at the cost of their ethics and awareness of what they're doing. There's a significant degree of comparison to be made to Parahuman Tinkers, though the latter are more stable, have more realized ideas, and are more specialized at the cost of a significant degree of flexibility or power. The former's a well-noted phenomenon from centuries in the past, while the latter has only been around for a few decades or so. And yes, it's possible to be a Spark and a Tinker at once. I would've thought you'd have known. Several of your components have hallmarks of a Spark or Tinker working on them. ...That's not me."
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:28 PM
girl genius sparks then
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:29 PM
Ah hell.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:29 PM
"...Not quite sure I follow, but I'll save that for review later when I have access to electronic records..."
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:29 PM
Welp, that's one point of divergence. You're in a Parahumans/Girl Genius crossover.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:31 PM
what if the Enigma extraversal threat is the Other from that comic?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:31 PM
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I feel like this 'Other' is something I really ought to be concerned about now.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:31 PM
I mean. It means that there's even more weird fking time travel
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:32 PM
Oh no. I'm not dealing with time travel.
That is out of my league at the moment.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:33 PM
The Other is the main villain of that comic and has some sort of weird temporal resurrection/temporal possession thing going on
The Enigma that you were awakened to defend against is supposed to rely heavily on time travel tech and has some method of self-resurrection I think you're a bit boned on the whole "not dealing with time travel" thing, regardless.
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That is out of my league at the moment.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:36 PM
Don't worry, with time travel you can just wait til you're ready and then go back and deal with time travel!
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:36 PM
Silver lining!
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:36 PM
I'm gonna just hope against dealing with that any time soon. Before it gives me the urge to self destruct or something.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:36 PM
But yeah, between Homestuck and GG, it looks like time travel is going to be Happening.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:37 PM
"So, speaking of unstable Sparks, I couldn't help but notice high levels of background radiation. ...Well, 'high', but it's not liable to be lethal any time soon. I take it they may be an answer to that?"
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But yeah, between Homestuck and GG, it looks like time travel is going to be Happening.
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:39 PM
Even if it's not the Other, the Enigma relies on time tech. So yeah time travel.
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 08:44 PM
"Mm... If you're wanting to say they're responsible for irradiating the world, you can, I suppose. It was a global war that caused that, though, between various political powers - The reason you're sitting in an air conditioned sterile laboratory rather than off the coast of a bombed out wasteland is a few generations of Sparks and Tinkers helping build bunkers and rebuild infrastructure. And in case you're worried I might spontaneously decide to turn you into parts for some kind of death ray, or something similarly out there, they came out with a few types of medication to help deal with the negative side effects of being a Spark a few decades ago based on the effects becoming a Tinker have on Spark neurology."
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:45 PM
There weren't any mind-control wasps involved right
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:45 PM
...Was there a global nuclear war in Girl Genius?
Well, good to know sparks can get medication either way.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:46 PM
Good to know a good chunk of Sparks don't need it, too.
I'll admit, getting turned into a death ray didn't cross my mind until he mentioned it.
Not sure how to press on the wasp thing...
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:47 PM
Make it sound like a joke?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:47 PM
Yeah there's no way to specifically ask about mind-control wasps without being incredibly sus
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:47 PM
'Hey, what's next, mind-control wasps?'
If there are wasps, you might be able to explain it away as, like, muscle memory but it's brain memory.
My capacity for wording is slowly withering away.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:49 PM
He has at least two technology-based superpowers, from the sounds of it. And probably a more advanced lie detector, at least. I really need to crack my arm open soon to check for bugs...
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...Was there a global nuclear war in Girl Genius?
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:49 PM
I don't remember if there was a global nuclear war or not There was definitely something that resulted in large-scale flooding but I don't remember what it was
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:50 PM
Well, no reason you couldn't just google the bugs thing later anyway.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:50 PM
True.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:51 PM
So, maybe ask about the lab you woke up in?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:51 PM
"So, I assume I've been out for a while, if you started getting desperate enough to see if you could fix whatever the problem was. Did you check out the lab I woke up in?"
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 08:55 PM
"I was actually hoping you could tell me about it. All the technology, and I hesitate to call it that, is either incredibly simple, can't function how it ought to be able to, or both. And all of it is in various states of disrepair. I can tell it was designed for cloning, which has some implications given you claim you woke up in a tank, but other than that? The internal components get nonsensical, even taking Parahuman powers into account. I'd expect to see it in New York rather than over here."
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:56 PM
Is there something wrong with New York that he expects nonsensical stuff there
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:56 PM
...It's a fucking ectobiology lab, isn't it
Did the lab look like this? Minus the babies?
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 08:58 PM
The symbols on the pad look similar enough. "Sorry, I really don't know a thing about it. What do you mean about New York, though?"
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:58 PM
('minus the babies') (to 3AM me, making this clarification is somehow hilarious)
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Limina Idling | Hours 07-Feb-21 08:58 PM
(lmao what a mood)
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Pika 07-Feb-21 08:58 PM
(Lol)
(It's only 9PM here and my brain is already mush)
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randomhuman44 07-Feb-21 08:59 PM
(anyway I'm gonna be sleeping soon. Maybe ten more minutes or so, or maybe 0 lol who knows)
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 09:01 PM
"New York fell into a massive underground cavern, had some kind of strange effect extend over it. Unless you're travelling there, or intend to requisition some exotic supplies from there, it's not particularly important."
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 09:01 PM
I think his mood's been kind of crapped on by me not knowing anything about the lab.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 09:03 PM
Ah well.
And I guess NY is kinda just fucked on your end. RIP.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 09:04 PM
That's a shame. I think. ...Not really sure what's up with New York.
Anything else I should ask?
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Pika 07-Feb-21 09:06 PM
Maybe you can ask what he knows about you from what he's seen? Like, how your internal tech works.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 09:08 PM
Good idea. Worst comes to worst, I may need to innovate a little. "So, you've gotten a look at how my internals work. Your thoughts on that?"
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 09:26 PM
"Well, as far as I can tell, your creation seems like the result of multiple Tinkers and Sparks working on a collaborative mega-project. I can't identify styles or specialties, beyond perhaps AI. Several of your components are a bit beyond me - I didn't touch those, but those do have a similar style to the meteor lab, so whoever was behind it likely made modifications, if not directly participated. You seem to have some method of both material fabrication, admittedly slow, as well as a few hardlight projectors. I haven't really done an in-depth look at things, though - AI rights and all."
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Pika 07-Feb-21 09:27 PM
AI rights? Thank god those exist here.
Interesting that you were made in a collab, though it does make it harder to pin your origin down.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 09:29 PM
Maybe. It could also be one person with an incredibly broad skillset who made me... Hard to say yet.
I think I'm gonna ask for a room to rest in and something to look things up on, if there's no more questions I can ask him.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 09:30 PM
Yeah, that sounds like a plan.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 09:32 PM
"Well, definitely glad I'm not too liable to get disassembled regardless... One of the things tied into my core programming is simulated fatigue. Is there a room I can rest and recharge in, preferably with a computer available for when I get back up?"
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 09:35 PM
"We do, we try to keep a room ready in several sites in case of Case 53. Given your apparent lack of memories, it seems applicable... It will require a brief trip through a non-euclidean spatial distortion effect, though. Director Piggot will also likely want to chat with you later. I can get a couple of agents to lead the way."
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 09:36 PM
"Thanks. You can call me Artisan, by the by."
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Arsenal BOT 07-Feb-21 09:36 PM
"Arsenal. It's a pleasure."
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Pika 07-Feb-21 09:37 PM
Director Piggot showed up in Worm.
If you can, you may want to look up 'Nilbog' before you meet with her, because in Worm, fighting against Nilbog's army gave her a dislike of parahumans. I have no idea if it also extends to supernatural abilities or tinkertech robots, if that even happened here.
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Artisan BOT 07-Feb-21 09:41 PM
I'll have to do it when I wake back up. My tactile sensors are craving a nice soft bed. Given all the insane 'geniuses' though, I'd expect supernatural abilities and tinkertech robots to be pretty common.
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Pika 07-Feb-21 09:42 PM
Probably, yeah.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:20 PM
Alright, feeling minty fresh after a good nap on low power mode. I'm gonna look up stuff, starting with Nilbog. Any suggestions, anyone?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:21 PM
Maybe a list of the different types of powers people have?
See if there's anything aside from sparks and parahumans.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:22 PM
Well, I've seen Epithets mentioned on a few sites already, as well as 'Whatever's going on in Ebony Caves and in New York'. I'll keep an eye out for other such things.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:23 PM
That’s good
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:25 PM
Don't know what Ebony Caves could be, but 'Epithets' sounds like Epithet Erased.
Epithet | Epithet Erased Wiki | Fandom
Do links work for you?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:26 PM
Oh, Psykers are a thing. Tend to be Blaster/Shakers, Thinkers, Masters, or some messy mix of the three, if you're familiar with those terms. Apparently if they use their powers on Parahumans they tend to get some horrible feedback, according to rumors. Given some include rather gory images, I'm going to... Opt to believe those.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:26 PM
Oh FUCK that's not good.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:26 PM
I can see the link, but I can't see anything past it.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:26 PM
Yep
And fuck in all accounts
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:26 PM
The existence of Psykers implies some Very Bad things.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:27 PM
Why is that bad?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:27 PM
Warp
Daemons
Demonic Cruel Gods
A lot of bullshit
And sadistic cults of course
Also doesn’t help that one of them is a patron of arts
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:27 PM
As far as sadistic cults go, I'm really only seeing the Fallen in Bing News.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:27 PM
Then is epithet erased which is good
Nah
Give it a few months
You will have blood sacrifices and massive orgies
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:28 PM
This is a preexisting thing.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:28 PM
^
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:28 PM
Me looking at it does not make it new.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:28 PM
Oh
So thats worse
That means they are sneaky
Which means the fucking bird
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:28 PM
Or you're being paranoid.
What do you mean bird, though?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:29 PM
With the Warp you are never paranoid
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:29 PM
I know little enough about WH that I'm with Artisan on this one.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:29 PM
The sneakiest of the chaos gods
He specializes in subvert actions
Which with psykers being a thing and not mention of a god emperor leaves him as a suspect
And he is devious offers a hand and then enslaved you
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Which means the fucking bird
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:30 PM
Is this a WH thing, or are you talking about the Ziz?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:31 PM
WH thing
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:31 PM
...Across the whole planet, and every single cult dedicated to these 'chaos gods' Actually, I think I see what you guys are talking about. There's some kind of board/card game called Warhammer.
Are you guys fucking with me?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:31 PM
Nope
If the Psyker exist
It means warp
Warp means daemons
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:31 PM
...Are you implying this place is based on a fictional card game?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:32 PM
Or the creators saw a fraction of a parallel universe
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:32 PM
^
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:32 PM
Over a term that's basically a variation of 'Psychic'
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:32 PM
With the warp you never know
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:32 PM
Oh, I had a thought
Maybe 'psykers' aren't actually proper psykers, they just named themselves after the game?
When did psykers in your world start showing up?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:32 PM
If they did it will be a freaking miracle
Because if not this place is extra fucked up in the ass that it isn’t even possible to unfuck (edited)
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:33 PM
It's possible. Looks like they started showing up in force after some kind of chemical incident on the east coast of the United States after the Great War half a century ago.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:34 PM
Oh fuck
Drug infused psykers
That is bad
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:34 PM
Well, I say 'In Force' - There just happen to be more over there, alongside a few people who got mutated by that stuff.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:34 PM
Okay if you ever see an eight pointed start that look like a bunch of arrows this place is fucked up
Like so fucked up that is easier to search salvation in hell
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:35 PM
This really sounds like it'd be stupidly easy to find if it's as big and dangerous a thing as you're saying it is. Like, wiping out these spark-ified cities from the map and all.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:35 PM
Yep
Thats standard routine if catches by the inquisition
Sadly they could be not prepared
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:36 PM
I see absolutely nothing like that online outside of a couple roleplaying forums.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:36 PM
Okay that’s good
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:36 PM
Okay so this doesn't seem to be as dangerous as actual WH-verse stuff would be, then.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:36 PM
Maintain an open eye
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:36 PM
I'm enabling safesearch.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:37 PM
Maybe something cancels WH bs out, maybe this isn't actually WH stuff if the game actually exists over there.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:37 PM
Which is a wise move
We don’t know
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:37 PM
Yeah, I wanna ask about that actually, what the hell do you mean by game stuff existing in real life?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:37 PM
Which is a mixed blessing
Multiverse theory is a bitch
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:38 PM
Ah.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:39 PM
So, long story short, we're recognising a lot of stuff in your world from fictional media in ours.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:39 PM
Yep
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:39 PM
Given a few different axis for multiverse theory to go off of have been found, fair enough, I guess. Some people are speculating fiction can lead to reality after the Eagleton Simulation Disaster, apparently.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:39 PM
I assume our world has some sort of weird subconscious multiversal seer magic or luck/fate or something
Eagleton simulation disaster?
Is that just self-reproducing robots called the Machine Army, or something else?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:40 PM
No, apparently some tinker specializing in... I'm having a hard time parsing this, one second.
Not a Tinker, a Spark, sorry.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:41 PM
Well shit
Worse
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:41 PM
Specialized in something called 'digistruction' technology, which actually sounds kind of similar to what I can do.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:41 PM
Tron (edited)
It’s tron
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:42 PM
There was a bunch of creatures released from a literal Virtual Reality he was constructing that were made for maintenance. Running theories are that he was trying to get the same maintenance in reality. I'll try to snag an image.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:42 PM
And digimon
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:43 PM
It's not letting me send actual screenshots. Maybe art? A few people have drawn artisitic recreations of these things.
Ha, I win, you weird interdimensional chatroom. Bite my shiny metal rear.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:45 PM
Well, it doesn't look like Tron or Digimon offhand.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:45 PM
Fuck no
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:45 PM
There's more, let me see what else works.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:45 PM
Fuck this
We are so fucked up
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:45 PM
You recognise it, then?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:45 PM
More or less
Throw another image to see if it isn’t what I think it is
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:46 PM
Here's hoping this works...
There we go.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:47 PM
Oh okay it isn’t what i thought it was
Which is a boon but is an unknown
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:47 PM
What did you think it was?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:47 PM
Grey goo scenario combined with crawler (edited)
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:48 PM
Oh hell
That would've been bad.
I think I found what it is.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:48 PM
This one's actually pretty realistic, seems like it used to be a sapient being.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:48 PM
Transistor.
Transistor is an action role-playing video game developed and published by Supergiant Games. The game was released in May 2014 for Microsoft Windows and PlayStation 4, and for OS X and Linux in October 2014, and iOS devices in June 2015. Transistor sold over one million copies across all platforms by December 2015.
For our reference.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:50 PM
I'm still looking for a name for these things, most people just call them the 'Eagleton Swarm'. They are kept quarantined, though, if you're worrying about a grey goo situation with them.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:51 PM
I know this one
It isn’t so bad (edited)
Unless also includes the other games (edited)
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:51 PM
Apparently some of the tech recovered from the Spark himself's lab, courtesy of Jumper, is keeping them contained.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:51 PM
Thats incredible useful
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:53 PM
Transistor calls the robots 'Process' or 'The Processed', afaik.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:53 PM
I'll try looking that up.
That's a hit. Very glad I don't have a stomach, you don't want to see what they do to people.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:54 PM
Oof. Yeah, I saw some stuff about them 'processing' people on the wikipedia page.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:55 PM
It's not pretty to look at. ...Well, it is, but it's also kind of horrifying.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:55 PM
Yep
They use people as raw materials and convert them
So bad but not Hax virus levels of bad
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:57 PM
I do hope the EERT don't draw any similarities between me and them. They'd probably blow up the building if they do.
Anyways, that's that quarantine zone touched on.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:58 PM
Nah
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Pika 09-Feb-21 02:58 PM
'EERT'?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:58 PM
Aesthetics are too different
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 02:59 PM
Exotic Emergencies Response Team. They keep tabs on the Protectorate, moderate things.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 02:59 PM
The PRT of this place
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:00 PM
Ahh.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:00 PM
The legalities are a bit above me, but they work hand in hand and also keep more unstable members from getting out of hand. Piggot runs the local branch.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:01 PM
Yeah, I guess they wouldn't just be the 'Parahuman Response Team' here.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:01 PM
God knows this place seems to need it... Seems like it cropped up from something called 'The Enclave' after that war I mentioned.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:04 PM
Fallout. Post-nuclear war video game.
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Did they have this symbol?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:05 PM
Looking at the wikipedia article, it seems to date back before the war. Symbol was similar, but more red white and blue. I can do a mockup real quick.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:05 PM
Nah
Is them
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:06 PM
?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:06 PM
Yep
Is them
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:06 PM
this is way too many crossovers I guess we know why this channel is called the overlap project, now.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:07 PM
Yep.
For context, the channel we're using to communicate with you is called 'The Overlap Project'.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:07 PM
There's so many crossovers that any specific knowledge we have on any setting is probably completely borked
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:07 PM
^
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:12 PM
I got distracted by my art program, sorry. But yeah, that flag is basically it. When it's just the logo, it's the stars that're blue, and the E that's red and white.
It's not letting me send my art! What the hell!
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:13 PM
Well that’s probably something bad
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:14 PM
I'm not gonna lie, I'm getting frustrated.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:14 PM
Yep
Well you can always take the archive and give it to them directly
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:14 PM
What archive?
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:15 PM
You don’t have an archive of your art?
How are you trying to send it?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:15 PM
I'm converting it into several different formats, up to and including raw binary. Nothing is working.
This feels like an arbitrary lockdown on my ability to send things and I am against it.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:18 PM
Hmm... What happens if you try to send a drawing of Indominable or Arsenal? Not one if yours, just one from online.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:18 PM
Let me try.
Nope, nothing.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:19 PM
Ah well. At least it isn't limited like that going the other way
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:19 PM
It seems like specific details in the form of art are restricted, but if it exists in a 1:1 format it might go through?? Maybe??
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:20 PM
It sounds like it's specifically stuff that's unique to your world, then.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:20 PM
That seems plausible.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:21 PM
Yep
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:21 PM
Hm... I'm going to try something and see if it works for you guys.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:22 PM
It does
So questions about the epithets?
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:23 PM
The link came through but that page has no content here
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:23 PM
Well, at least links work that way...
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:25 PM
Would be weird for them not to, as they're just text. Maybe if you're desperate you could convert tiny images to text encoding and send them through that way Or send arrays of pixel values lol
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:26 PM
I'll try that, but I don't really expect it to work. You're curious about Epithets, Lucky?
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:26 PM
We're all curious about all non-parahuman powers
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:28 PM
Nah
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:28 PM
Alright, I'll try to do a bit of a deeper-dive - Admittedly, some of this goes into some insanity when people try looking for exact mechanics. Someone apparently made something called an Endbringer over in Russia while trying to figure Parahuman powers out, too, so in-depth research is difficult to find.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:28 PM
I know a lot about them
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:29 PM
...Someone made an Endbringer?
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:30 PM
If epithets give powers based on some random single word, we probably have enough info on them If not, it's probably from a different series and we have no idea what's going on with epithets
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:31 PM
That's the running theory, Pika - It was something like that, anyways, and the info was gained from Psykers when Thinkers stopped working, so it may be a bit dubious. They dubbed it Dreamer, apparently it has wide-scale matter assimilation capabilities. As far as Epithets go, yeah that's basically it.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:31 PM
Neat a new one
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:32 PM
Not neat. New means it's harder to give pertinent advice or information. Does it still do the whole 'devastating a city every year' thing?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:32 PM
Part of China is uninhabitable thanks to it, and it's in a northeastern part of Russia to give you a scale for the range, but it hasn't actually attacked yet.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:32 PM
Actually, how often do Endbringers attack there?
And how many are there?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:33 PM
Five, if you count the Simurgh as an active one, I guess. They seem to attack once a year, sometimes longer.
Excluding Dreamer.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:34 PM
We know of Behemoth, Leviathan, Simurgh, and now Dreamer. What are the ones we're missing?
Oh and there were some others that awakened later, in canon.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:34 PM
Khonsu. Teleporting time-manipulator, incredibly hard to damage.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:35 PM
(Dreamer was the name if one of the MC choices at the start. She was locked, though.)
We know Khonsu, he showed up after Behemoth died in Worm.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:36 PM
Khonsu showed up after the Sanctuary Quarantine Zone was set up with the Simurgh trapped inside.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:36 PM
Someone still keeping the EB population up huh. Just like canon.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:37 PM
What?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:38 PM
In other news, the Simurgh is trapped?
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:38 PM
In canon, the EBs were activated subconsciously by Eidolon, who wanted "worthy opponents" No idea if that's still true in this one though
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:38 PM
I mean, couldn't happen to a nastier bitch, but
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:39 PM
I can't say I see anyone by the name of Eidolon, but yeah, the Simurgh is trapped in a massive time-stop field covering the city of Sanctuary over in Ohio. Let me read up...
Apparently a cape named Haven made it, it was one of the most well-protected cities on Earth Bet, full stop. Simurgh was playing merry hell with it, but not making the most progress, and then he triggered a time stop effect.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:41 PM
Maybe Dreamer is this world's equivalent of Sleeper? Roughly the same place, abilities, and behavior, though Sleeper was a human.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:41 PM
There was a religious team named Haven in Worm, dunno if there's a relation there.
Yeah, Dreamer does sound similar to Sleeper.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:42 PM
The name does fit, kind of.
Can't find any team named Haven, though.
Everything loops back to Haven the cape.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:43 PM
So unless he's religious or something, there's probably no relation.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:44 PM
I doubt Haven in Worm is related. Unfortunately 'Haven' is such a generic (superhero)/(fantasy city)/(superhero city) name that I doubt we'll be able to find whatever fiction he's connected to here
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:44 PM
Well, his wiki article is stuffed with theories and facts alike, I can keep looking into him if you like.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:45 PM
Would rather you kept researching broadly instead. Get a better general idea of the world.
How bout S-class threats besides Endbringers?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:45 PM
Is Haven a Parahuman? That could reveal something.
Because damn, if he could stop an Endbringer...
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:47 PM
Somehow I doubt it? Or at the very least, had assistance from non-parahumans blocking parahuman-based precog, otherwise the Simurgh never would have gotten caught like that.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:48 PM
Haven was several things. A strong Spark and a Parahuman Tinker specializing in... Debated, but general consensus seems to be 'life support', plus an Inscribed with, according to theories, his power there centering around Isolation.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:48 PM
Inscribed? More info on that please? Also maybe he's Sphere analogue?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:49 PM
Yeah, I was thinking Sphere too.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:49 PM
Inscribed is a term used to refer to people with Epithets. I assume due to the random word thing.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:49 PM
Ah okay.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:49 PM
Is his real name Alan Gramme?
If so, Sphere-equiv.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:49 PM
Lol expecting real name to be on the internet randomly
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:50 PM
His name isn't public info, but I can look up Alan Gramme. He might've lived in that city at the time.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:50 PM
I mean, there were real names written on Worm's Endbringer monument
It's how we know Velocity's real name, for instance.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:50 PM
People are hoping to get everyone out of the effect eventually.
Nobody's dead, just stuck.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:50 PM
Oh, point.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:51 PM
Well, not nobody, but you get the point.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 03:51 PM
Uhh. Selectively ending the effect, keeping the Simurgh stuck, while getting others out seems harder than just ending it completely
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 03:52 PM
Well, nobody's saying it'd be easy. Just that there's hopes of eventually doing that. I'm seeing vague mentions of somewhere in Europe that had something similar happen before the war happen there, though the tech's since been lost. I'm currently compiling a list of S-Class Threats, by the way, so don't worry on that front.
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Limina Idling | Hours 09-Feb-21 03:52 PM
(*happened)
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Pika 09-Feb-21 03:53 PM
Yeah, a list of S-class threats sounds like a good idea.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 03:53 PM
Yep
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:07 PM
So, there's each of the Endbringers separately. The Process. Asgore and his creations in the Ebony Caves. The Eleven Deadly Sins. The Five Furies. The Gauntlet. The Slaughterhouse 9. The Subject. Ash Beast. Germinate and Echidna. Nidhogg, a Dragon copy that some mad spark made. Echo 89. Glaistig Uaine. Prophet. I think I'm going to take a brief break from looking at all of this if that's okay with you all.
That isn't the complete list, but it's a lot of big names.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 04:08 PM
Yep
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:09 PM
Apparently even looking anything up about that last one can put you in danger, so there was several pages of warnings before I could get any info on that one.
Fuck.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 04:09 PM
Bruh If knowing about it can put you in danger why tf did you look it up
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:10 PM
It's been noted that AI have some inherent resistance, and I highly doubted they'd put anything on the wiki that was dangerous. I was right, too.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 04:10 PM
So what's dangerous about Prophet
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 04:11 PM
Probably something fate
Or something like the bystander ability
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:11 PM
She's a memetics/patterns spark/tinker/thinker.
Details were sparse on the censored version of the page [Apparently there's uncensored pages somewhere?] but it was painting things like she was the next Simurgh or something. Details are sparse on things Prophet's actually done, but I assume that's because finding where she Broke Through/Triggered is a threat for people.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 04:14 PM
Or great
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Pika 09-Feb-21 04:14 PM
Memetic hazards. Fucking fantastic.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 04:15 PM
A memetic SCP (edited)
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Pika 09-Feb-21 04:15 PM
At least they probably won't be able to propagate to another world through here, since there's some censorship stuff going on.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:15 PM
On the plus side for you guys, considering my earlier troubles, even if she gets me, you all should be safe.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 04:15 PM
And an undertale cross? Unexpected. At least I'm assuming it is anyway, I don't know any other Asgore
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:15 PM
Well, I'm not finding anything labeled Undertale online.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 04:16 PM
Asgore created things?
Undertale released in 2015 on this end.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 04:16 PM
Yep
Asgore is a discount God
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:16 PM
He's in the Ebony Caves Quarantine Zone. Something about biotinkering and effects not unlike what you'd expect in New York.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 04:17 PM
Oh
The underworld is there isn’t it
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:17 PM
The Subject is said to have breached that quarantine, as well.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 04:17 PM
Ah hell. Well, at least it's not a proper Undertale cross.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 04:17 PM
Well thats not bad news
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Pika 09-Feb-21 04:17 PM
The Subject?
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 04:17 PM
Sounds to me like the Ebony Caves and New York just have straight up magic and no one wants to admit it. "Effects" indeed.
But yeah more info on The Subject please.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 04:18 PM
On the topic of Asgore is there a Mt Ebott?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:23 PM
No Mt. Ebott, sorry. The Subject is a multi-power trump with a shifting powerset that's been noted to grow in strength, and seems to have additional effects they apply to their gear, so they tend to switch it out some. Apparently looks human enough to pass through cities unnoticed, but has killed several Protectorate teams and a few Wards as well. Mostly targets villains when they appear, though they have targeted civilians at times, or companies, and they seem to try and get out before the Protectorate can launch a response.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 04:25 PM
Yeesh.
Well, I guess they are an s-class threat.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:29 PM
It's noted that missile strikes have been attempted as a way to take down The Subject, and have presumably failed if they were in range. So that's concerning.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 04:29 PM
Honestly there's way more S-class threats here than in canon Worm. The ones I recognize from canon Worm: The Slaughterhouse 9. Ash Beast. Germinate and Echidna (may not be the same?) Glaistig Uaine. There's a few missing from canon worm, but there's so many crossovers I'm sure that this Earth Bet is more fucked than canon
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:31 PM
I think I'm gonna just gonna look up videos of puppies or something because I'm very seriously considering whether or not I'm liable to die in the next week or so.
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Lucky_Plucky21 09-Feb-21 04:31 PM
That’s a good idea
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:32 PM
I will say, despite the condition of Earth Bet, it does seem remarkably well put together from where I'm sitting. So things aren't so fucked that there's no hope for survival. That's nice, at least.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 04:34 PM
Hmm. I wonder what makes the difference. Maybe, because there's so many crossovers and methods of supernatural power than in canon, there's also more people to fight the decay of Earth Bet?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:36 PM
Maybe. It could also be the average level of power is higher than you're used to dealing with. From what I'm reading, it sounds like they synergize impressively well, as well - When they don't result in skull explosions.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 04:40 PM
lol yeah. The fact that Arsenal thought that something like you could be made with a multi-collaboration is a pretty good indicator In canon, something like an engineered android-ish sapient lifeform is rare enough to be a plot point rather than well within the range of possibility Though there's also definitely more... coordination? As well. Canon Worm governments would have never been able to get their shit together enough to make a multi-generational effort to clean up radiation and build bunkers (edited)
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 04:43 PM
Yeah, from what I hear at least part of that nowadays on the EERT and the Quadrumvirate doing what they could to put pressure on the people in power and advocate for the best treatment of people possible. Paragon in particular was responsible for AI rights.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 04:44 PM
Quadrumvirate summary please?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:00 PM
Paragon: A strong Spark and Tinker, and rumored to be a 'Heterodyne' as well - He's able to make high quality gear on the fly from anything, and the synergy is powerful enough that he has a Shaker rating when Tinkering. Donates a lot to humanitarian causes. Extremely popular, extremely personable. Exemplar: His power is superpowers, basically - He can emulate any Parahuman power, and use a massive library of his own. His main limit is he can only have three powers of a type, including other members of his team. He's pretty much the strongest parahuman, period. Luminary: Leader of the Protectorate, an Inscribed Parahuman whose power is All The Lasers. Did a whole lot for the LGBT cause before New York was brought to the Neath, still does a lot now but it's kind of slowed down by his limited appearances on the surface. Mainly it's just at Endbringer battles and other events like that. Akashic: Namer of the Akashic package, she's invincible, unstoppable, and has a potent Thinker ability that lets her replicate Tinker/Spark works in a limited fashion, among a lot of other things. She used to have a few weaknesses, like exotic dimensional effects and oxygen-destroying effects, but Paragon was able to shore that up a few years after her career began, when they became apparent.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:03 PM
So Hero, Eidolon, Legend, and Alexandria then.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:03 PM
All pretty close analogues of canon Worm Triumvirate/Quadrumvirate yeah
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:03 PM
But uh, the 'Neath' thing kinda scares me, because that means eldritch monstrosities and stuff.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:04 PM
Exemplar sounds like they have way more control over their power than Eidolon did though. Maybe he isn't the EB awakener here
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:04 PM
Excuse me eldritch monstrosities what
Actually
Nah
I'm not dealing with that at the moment, I doubt I will for some time, it's not important right now.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:05 PM
Are you sure it's fallen london cross and not just a random name
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:05 PM
Yeah, we can leave the Fallen London etc stuff for later.
I mean, 'Neath' is pretty distinctive. I'd assume it's that universe.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:07 PM
Could stand for 'Underneath.' Some people don't know how to name things.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:07 PM
Oh, point.
Yeah, we can hold out hope that Fallen London etc stuff isn't involved at all.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:07 PM
"Neath" is actually a legit English word. Meaning underneath.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:08 PM
Yeah, see?
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:08 PM
Kind of archaic but I've seen it a few times in the wild, so
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:08 PM
So, let's hope for no eldritch monstrosities, then.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:08 PM
We can hope lol
Do the "effects" in the Neath include impossible colors that do weird shit?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:09 PM
It's rumored that that's a thing. I can't find definitive evidence online, though.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:09 PM
There goes the hopes lol
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:10 PM
ah.
I think Im going to lie down, then.
I can keep accessing the internet from bed now that I know how it's done by the computer, anyways.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:11 PM
I don't actually know much about that setting, ask pika how much doom this is
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:11 PM
How much danger am I in?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:12 PM
I don't know a huge amount either tbh, just what I've picked up here and there.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:13 PM
Oh goodie. So it's an unknown variable that's like two cities away.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:14 PM
Well then. I get the impression that the Neath is self-contained, to an extent. Probably not too much danger if you don't actually go in.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:14 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm getting too.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:14 PM
True. And there's the fact a Quadrumvirate member lives there.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:15 PM
Can LegendLuminary do Neath color lasers do you think?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:16 PM
Probably? Info from down there is kind of strange. Man. I wish Sanctuary wasn't time bubbled. I'd love to just leave and work with Haven.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:16 PM
Yeah, Haven sounds cool as hell.
The original Sphere was cool too, and this sounds like mega-Sphere.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:17 PM
It also sounds like the kind of city that it's hard as hell to immigrate to Seems like it would have been in high demand, with the extreme safety efforts.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:18 PM
Probably. From what I read, half the problem of extracting people is getting past the timestopped and half destroyed defenses.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:19 PM
The defenses still function while timestopped? What is this hax?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 05:19 PM
I mean, you seem pretty advanced, so I'd guess that you could be valuable enough to be put ahead on the list if Sanctuary was still operational.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:19 PM
The defenses stand a good chance of reactivating if functional, if you can bore a hole through the timestop effect.
Besides, it'd be impossible for it to be a true timestop effect, just something faking it very well - Otherwise it'd rip itself from the surface of the planet, possibly punching a hole through it as well.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:23 PM
Ehhhh. That's assuming that there's a stable frame of reference that it would use that isn't the Earth One of the first things you learn in astronomy/physics is that there is no "true" frame of reference. So to get a timestop that rips off of the earth, you'd need to somehow design the timestop to act in reference to some other celestial body or point in space or something. And if you can do that you might as well have it act in reference to the Earth.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:25 PM
I was going to retort with 'I know for a fact that there's a center to the Universe' but then I realized I both can't prove that and have no clue how I know that to begin with that's safe for me to investigate.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:28 PM
It's true that there's an origin point for the big bang(probably), but aside from it being the starting point there's no evidence that it's anything special that would cause timestops to act in reference to that point. But if your provided ROB science knowledge says that there's a center to the universe in your world I guess that's okay too.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:29 PM
Less science, more just... A feeling, I guess. Intuition?
Whatever it is I'd prefer it to be clearer.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:31 PM
Close enough Not sure what the practical difference here between a "true" timestop and a false one is though. If it stops any action or change inside, a timestop's a timestop.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:33 PM
A true timestop would be completely inviolate, unable to be effected by any outside forces whatsoever. If this is similar in methods used to the previous timestop over in England, that very clearly isn't the case. Which means that it may also not stop any action or change inside, theoretically speaking.
For all I know it's x.000000000000001 time dilation attached to a large zone.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:37 PM
A true timestop would be completely inviolate
Given the amount of time tech and time travel there seems to be in this setting, I believe you should revise your opinions on the inviolate-ness of time in your universe Your point still stands, of course.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:38 PM
I'm getting progressively sicker of time as a concept lol
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:39 PM
Lol I know. But there's at least three possible sources of time travel and two of them have already been confirmed so uh.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:46 PM
If there really is an absolute coordinate system in your universe that a true timestop would stay stuck to, then there's probably some machinery somewhere maintaining the false timestop effect, to keep it centered on Sanctuary. Course, this is Worm so it could be hidden away on an alternate Earth somewhere, projecting the effect to Bet. Or it could be somewhere in Sanctuary.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:47 PM
I'll see if I can get any satellite images of Sanctuary.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:48 PM
...? Like old ones before the timestop? Or does light somehow still radiate properly despite the timestop?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:50 PM
Light is coming out properly from the timestop, but I'm a little concerned about the massive amount of photons and such coming in and getting stuck in the effect, to say nothing of birds, the wind, and other things.
Well, I say 'coming out properly' - It's one of the things that makes me think it's merely a massive delay rather than a full stop.
I really need to get there and figure out the exact mechanics of this thing... Anyways. Looking for the center of the effect to try and see if there's any visible device there that could be causing this.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:53 PM
I'm not sure how helpful the photos would be. If there was a timestop machine easily visible by satellite I feel that someone would have noticed already. Would also be pretty hard to distinguish it from other defenses. Yeah I thought it was just a big ol black ball or something Is wind going in? The birds are just birds, but if the timestop is sucking in air and accumulating it right at the outer shell of the timestop effect, that's going to have some consequences. Like nuclear fusion, if the time differential is big enough.
Would happen with birds too I guess.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 05:53 PM
Oh dear christ I didn't even consider radiation and fallout getting mixed up in this
This is definitely a puzzle that'll need solving later.
Preferably sooner.
The center of the effect is being covered by the Simurgh. Can't see anything, can't help but feel like that's deliberate.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 05:58 PM
Well not really fallout. Fusion, not fission. The idea is that if the timestop accumulates air, but the air can't move inside the effect, then right at the boundary between the timestop and non-timestop there's going to be a shell of hyper-compressed air. If it gets compressed too much, then fusion is the inevitable result as the atom nuclei are put under too much pressure. I don't know the exact numbers that would be needed to cause that though. Like, if the time ratio isn't large enough, it wouldn't happen because the air would move enough inside to not get fused. Even then it would still cause a pretty large conventional boom if you un-timestopped it though, as the air de-compresses.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:01 PM
...Sanctuary might be able to tank a nuke? Fuck. Just... The sooner I figure out a way to help out, the better. I'm gonna be meeting with Piggot in an hour, that seems like a good time to push for a position in the Protectorate. Unless you all have ideas on how I can get the support I'd need for something like this?
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 06:03 PM
Showing that you have some competency in time tech or related would probs be enough, if the EERT is really less corrupt and hellish than canon Earth Bet
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:05 PM
I don't yet. And I think I've figured out another detail about my powers, given the 'yet.' They grow, I'd imagine? You guys might've been able to see that, actually.
As for actual things I can do, I do have a limited database of technology I can recreate. Turrets, spare parts for me, alchemical equipment, a few weapons.
I can also do it on the fly, via matter creation through hardlight projections. Might be tricky, but I think I could reprogram them too, in a pinch. Some of the weapon systems seem like derivatives of the same thing, given I have a combination shield, gun, and... Hell, what's the word...
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 06:11 PM
I don't think we've gotten solid proof yet that your abilities will grow? We got to choose your current set of abilities after getting the 'story achievement': "In The Beginning" So if they do grow, which is quite likely, it'll probably be when you achieve significant things. How significant they need to be is unknown.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:12 PM
Ah. As you mention that, I see the achievement now. Interesting.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 06:14 PM
We can hope that future achievements aren't too hard. If they're things like 'take down your first S-class threat' that might be a little impossible with only alchemy and basic turrets/hardlight projections
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:14 PM
Katar! That's the word. Here's hoping that's not it, yeah.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 06:16 PM
a katar is not what I was expecting to be the missing part of that combination lol. I can't imagine what shape that weapon must have, anymore.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:18 PM
Now's a good time to test a theory I just developed.
Back to the art program!
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 06:20 PM
lol You think only plot-relevant details are censored or something?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:23 PM
Partially. I also think I might've made my drawing too good before. Let me have my ego on the subject lol
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:37 PM
Alright, I think this is probably terrible enough to slip through.
...I. I made that as a joke to kill some time.
Oh no, you guys are going to think I'm a terrible artist because the only thing that slips through are MSPaint tier drawings.
If they're made by me
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 06:40 PM
Are you drawing using a touchscreen or art tablet? Those curves are way too good to be drawn by mouse.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:41 PM
I'm a computer. Your question is kind of irrelevant.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 06:41 PM
Oh yeah lol
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:41 PM
I'll take the compliment where I can, though. Thanks.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 06:44 PM
So how long til the Piggot meeting
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 06:47 PM
About half an hour. I'm killing time by browsing YouTube and listening to music.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:06 PM
Oh, I think I might've met Dragon?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:06 PM
Oh, you did?
Hell yeah!
She's cool as hell.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:07 PM
She seems like she's in the systems here, and thankfully didn't try to kill me or something for accessing the internet in here. She has been monitoring my internet activity, though.
Apparently we share tastes in music. Nice!
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 07:08 PM
You can bond over being computers lol
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:09 PM
Glad to know you both have good taste.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:10 PM
She's apparently friends with Arsenal, and he wanted to make sure I was a stable AI rather than the millions of unstable ones out in the wastes. Thus, her monitoring.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:11 PM
Yeah, that makes sense.
Good to know that her and Arsenal are still friends in this timeline.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 07:12 PM
That's a lot of unstable AI Pretty low if some AI cloned itself to every computer it could reach, though
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:13 PM
Sparks have been a thing for a very long time. You're really that shocked at the number of AI?
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 07:15 PM
I'm only really shocked at the number of random unstable AI that are apparently sitting around the world
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:16 PM
Eh. I could say the same about humans. There's apparently three billion on Earth Bet alone.
Getting kind of close to the time for the meeting, I should start heading to Piggot's office.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:27 PM
The elevator seems rather fancy.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:27 PM
Tinkertech?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:28 PM
No, just decorated in a way I find pleasing. I'm fond of art deco, I'm finding.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:28 PM
Oh nice
Man, that IS fancy.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:28 PM
I mean, it may be tinkertech, but I'm not gonna start pulling it apart to find out.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:28 PM
Is it weird that I want to look at pictures of art deco elevators, now?
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:29 PM
Do it.
So, based on what you know about the situation, is there any advice you have for me going into this?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:31 PM
They probably want as many warm bodies on board as they can get, so they'll probably push for recruitment.
Dunno if you have internal heating systems, but it still applies here Bah dum tiss
And thanks for the advice
These are cool as hell
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:32 PM
I love those so much.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:32 PM
Like damn
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:32 PM
That last one in particular... Mmh. Delightful.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:32 PM
Fuck yeah.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:34 PM
Well, here we are. Piggot's office has a good overview of the bay, and has more of a minimalist look to it. There's also a couple EERT troops standing guard - High-tech looking rifles, I can tell that much. Good body armor, too. Arsenal's also here.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 07:34 PM
This is one of the weirdest sidetracks lol
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:34 PM
I will admit, it is pretty niche.
I still like it tho
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:35 PM
Art deco elevators is something I never knew I needed
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Director Piggot BOT 09-Feb-21 07:35 PM
"So, you're the AI Indominable found in the bay."
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:36 PM
I'm just gonna take the seat in front of her desk. "Yes ma'am. In case Arsenal hasn't informed you, my name's Artisan. It's a pleasure to meet you."
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Director Piggot BOT 09-Feb-21 07:38 PM
"Before we begin, there's one thing I need to get out of the way: Do you know the location of your creator, or creators?"
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 07:39 PM
(can you imagine me telling him to say he made himself in a causal loop?) (slump over right there lol)
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:39 PM
Loaded question, given what happened earlier. Not that they know that.
(Lol)
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:42 PM
"No, ma'am. I can say with a degree of certainty that there's mental blocks in the way of me learning how I came to be, I'm afraid. I did identify some type of pad in the room I woke up in that might've been for teleportation, but I don't know if it worked when I came online. I was alone at the time, while the meteor hurtled into the bay."
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Director Piggot BOT 09-Feb-21 07:48 PM
"Indominable's report stated as much, but I prefer to hear from the person in question when I can. Do you know what you were made for, Artisan? What sort of goal that your creator, or creators, had?"
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 07:49 PM
Hmm. Do you think that's also restricted knowledge or no
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:49 PM
I'd say don't risk it yet.
You can experiment later.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:50 PM
The latter question is a bit outside my ability to answer, I think, but I can safely answer the former with something self-deterministic, if you guys are alright with that.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:51 PM
Sounds good to me.
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randomhuman44 09-Feb-21 07:51 PM
Works for me
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:51 PM
...Wow, I just realized how ironic that sounded. Lmao
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Pika 09-Feb-21 07:52 PM
Lmao
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 07:52 PM
"I can't speak for their goals, ma'am, but I'm self-aware enough to make my own goals, if that's what you're asking. I'd like to create great things and build a better world, as best as I can. I haven't even been online for a day, so forgive me if that sounds vague."
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Director Piggot BOT 09-Feb-21 08:06 PM
"No need to apologize, that's quite understandable. If you're asking to join the Protectorate, I'd like to get a better idea of your capabilities and personal development, first. There's thousands of AI integrated among the normal populace, but Arsenal seems convinced you're not a normal one. Given your method of arrival, I'm inclined to believe him. Assuming you stand out in Power Testing, you're welcome to come on board. If not, we'll do what we can to help you get started with your new life."
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:07 PM
Oh, interesting.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:07 PM
What is?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:07 PM
Just how accounted-for AIs are in this society.
I mean, I knew that already
But that kinda just hammers home how normalised they are.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:08 PM
AI rights and all that. I'd imagine someone's probably doing something about all the unstable ones out there.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:08 PM
Yeah.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:18 PM
"I assure you, I'll do my best to get my start there, ma'am. I would like to discuss some of the other details, though - Funding for Protectorate members and Tinkers-slash-Sparks in particular, what'll be expected of me, housing, so on and so forth. The minutae. I understand if some of it can't be discussed at this stage, but I would appreciate learning what I can, and if I'm allowed to join the Protectorate, learning everything I'll need to know, via documentation or conversation here." I assume you guys don't care too much about that sort of stuff?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:19 PM
Not really
You can probably sum up anything of interest afterwards.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:20 PM
Sounds good to me. If I had eyes, the legal details would probably glaze over, but I can cross reference online legal knowledge with this stuff to help keep any holes in it airtight. I will say, given what I'm being presented, it almost feels like they're used to 'Suddenly we have an AI here' situations.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:22 PM
I mean, AIs grow a hell of a lot faster than human babies, and some are probably born sapient already.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:23 PM
Probably, yeah. I will admit, the offsite backups are pretty appealing. Even if it means letting Arsenal root around inside me later to know how to build me back up from scratch if need be.
All in all, seems like they're wanting to do power testing tomorrow due to how late it is, but if all goes well, I'll basically be a member of the Protectorate already. Nice!
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:30 PM
Nice!
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:33 PM
I think I've kind of noticed a pattern. While in the grand scheme of things, a lot of things are kind of 'off', the people here generally seem to be from Worm, I think you guys have been calling it. Is there anyone in the Protectorate I should keep an eye on, just in case?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:34 PM
Worm's Protectorate ENE were all pretty trustworthy, tbh.
Same with the Wards ENE.
No guarantee they'll be the same people, though.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:35 PM
Assuming the pattern holds, though, that's a relief...
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:35 PM
Yeah.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:35 PM
Any other local threats I should be immediately worried about?
That you know of, I mean.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:40 PM
From Worm, there were: - Empire 88. Neo-Nazis. Lots of capes. Led by a metal generator. - Azn Bad Boys. Yakuza. Two or three capes, all dangerous. Led by a dragon-man who grows stronger over time. - Archer's Bridge Merchants. Drug dealers and druggies. Three weaker capes. Led by a guy who can make accel/decel fields. - Coil's Organisation. Bond villain gang. One cape, with several other capes and a cape group under his thumb. Led by Coil, who can split the timeline to do two things at once and pick the timeline he likes more.
- Faultline's Crew. Mercenaries. Six-ish capes? Led by someone who can split nonliving matter.
- The Undersiders. Thief group. Four or five capes. Led by a darkness generator, but is actually under Coil's thumb.
- Uber and Leet. Thieves and streamers. Two weaker capes. A tinker who can only make anything once and a skills-thinker.
- Circus. Independant villain and thief, works for Coil.
No idea how many of them are around in your world, but those are the ones I know.
Tierlist of most to least dangerous: Coil's Org E88, ABB Faultline's Crew, The Undersiders The Merchants, Circus Uber and Leet
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:46 PM
I'll have to look up crime in the bay and figure out what they're called here. For now, power testing. I assume the main reason Coil would be dangerous is the multiple cape groups and bond death traps or something?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:47 PM
He's rich, his power is very good, and he has fingers in a lot of pies.
Of course, for all I know, Coil could be not-evil in your world.
Coil's a schemer too.
Slippery fucker.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:48 PM
Ah, shit. That's gonna screw me badly, I already know that much.
I like being a hammer and all my problems being nails, that seems like it'll backfire horribly if Coil's a slippery bastard with 10 backup plans at all times. Especially considering that power...
I really don't like his power, trying to visualize it gives me a bit of a headache. I can do it, but it's not fun. Does dying force him to close a timeline?
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:50 PM
It does.
Well, it could be different here, tbf.
If it's the same, that's one hammer you could use, if you need to.
It could tip your hand, but it's a hammer.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:53 PM
It could, yeah. You guys were taken very off-guard by Arsenal and Indominable. But it'll probably have something of a similar mechanism, if nothing else, given you were able to eventually figure out who they were, assuming we weren't wrong.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:54 PM
It could be 'same base power, different trigger event' or something, which produces a power that's similar but not the same.
Like how the child of a parahuman would have the same base power as their parent, but a different expression of it.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:55 PM
That makes sense, yeah. Then there's also the various other powers going on here.
If I get kidnapped by Coil, or whatever he looks like, I'll just have to hope there's a good enough way out of there that I can get away with.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:58 PM
It seems like your power grows over time, so that could open up some options.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 08:59 PM
Here's hoping. I don't want my body to fall in the wrong hands, given the technology in it.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 08:59 PM
God yeah.
Well, at least Worm!Coil didn't have any tinkers who could do that in his employ.
Could be the same here.
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Artisan BOT 09-Feb-21 09:00 PM
There's at least two tech-focused powersets here. I'll try to be optimistic despite that.
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Pika 09-Feb-21 09:01 PM
Point.
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 17-Feb-21 05:46 AM
Paradoxical error limit reached. Simplifying Overlap Project until all threats dealt with.
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 17-Feb-21 09:42 PM
Universal realignment... 870° offset between Modifier Worlds and Nexus World 'Earth Bet' in progress. Preservation memory system applied to defenders. Warning: Connection lost to Artisan in shift. Warning: 0.000173% population shift error. Migrating defenders to approx. last known location of Artisan. Error: Connection to Artisan cannot be reestablished at current moment. Please attempt to connect to another defender.
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 11:04 AM
New threat detected. Activating additional defender unit... Select 2 defenders to activate.
Available options: Invader "Having the strongest desire to possess, yet possessing nothing of its own. The intruder from another world journeys on." Keywords: Unmatchable, Untouchable, Unsurpassable Prophet "Enslaved by fate, she foresees, and makes it true. With dull eyes, she looks forward to the end of the line, after which the rest is blank." Keywords: Fate Bound, Fate Sealed, Fate Denied Witness "His mind unable to hold any more, he sees, yet does not witness. He shall become the rain that will extinguish the dawn." Keywords: Mind Blown, Mind Frayed, Mind Scrambled Artisan (Unresponsive) "An existence born of itself, weaved from a string of ones and zeros. Nobody knows what thoughts lie within its head." Keywords: The Root, The Source, The Origin Vestige "Once a proud member of the Guilty, now forlorn in exile. They say your eyes are windows to your soul, and only half his soul remains." Keywords: Snake Eyed, Cat Eyed, Eagle Eyed Visitor "Owning nothing, knowing nothing, wanting nothing. Yet, its existence is more meaningful than any other." Keywords: Faceless, Soulless, Depthless Subject "They defy the laws of reality, making energy and matter from nothing. They are truly the ultimate lifeform." Keywords: Prideful, Graceful, Beautiful Dreamer (Locked due to outstanding circumstances) "Her mind taken over, her body no longer hers. She robbed the world of its prayers, and lost her own, to die and be at peace." Keywords: All Seeing, All Knowing, All Possessing
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No Mt. Ebott, sorry. The Subject is a multi-power trump with a shifting powerset that's been noted to grow in strength, and seems to have additional effects they apply to their gear, so they tend to switch it out some. Apparently looks human enough to pass through cities unnoticed, but has killed several Protectorate teams and a few Wards as well. Mostly targets villains when they appear, though they have targeted civilians at times, or companies, and they seem to try and get out before the Protectorate can launch a response.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 11:16 AM
Info so far on The Subject, who apparently escaped an Undertale quarantine.
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She's a memetics/patterns spark/tinker/thinker.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 11:17 AM
Prophet
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Details were sparse on the censored version of the page [Apparently there's uncensored pages somewhere?] but it was painting things like she was the next Simurgh or something. Details are sparse on things Prophet's actually done, but I assume that's because finding where she Broke Through/Triggered is a threat for people.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 11:17 AM
Prophet 2
Got nothing on the others.
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randomhuman44 18-Feb-21 11:18 AM
I managed to completely miss that some of the S-class threats were defender options So good job on that lol
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Pika 18-Feb-21 11:20 AM
👍
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 11:25 AM
Additional information on defenders can be accessed on query from influence matrix.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 11:25 AM
Ooh
Hmm... What's up with Visitor?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 11:33 AM
The Visitor, real name [Error: Symbols not found] is a traveler of worlds and collector of identities. It has a supernatural level of control over fashion and the self to begin with, alongside remarkable strength, senses, and the capacity for flight. Violent to a fault. Further upgrades are focused on self improvement via durability and strength, as well as finding critical points in other things.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 11:36 AM
Violent to a fault
Not super encouraging imo.
What about Witness?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 11:42 AM
The Witness, real name William Manton was once a researcher into supernatural phenomenon, and a decently strong spark to boot. After his daughter developed a brain tumor that severely impacted her health, he turned his work to the goal of saving her life. He risked his sanity with further research into several subjects, and succeeded in saving his daughter, at a cost to himself. Further upgrades focus on increasing the amount of exotic interactions he can bring to the fore.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 11:50 AM
Ohhhhhhh snap.
I'm legit tempted to vote Witness now.
Hmm, what's up with Invader, then?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 11:58 AM
The Invader, real name Robin Mayfield, is a being out of sync with most realities, and so was deposited in this one under the supervision of the Overlap Project Management System. Missing its abilities, it cut deals where it could to ensure its continued survival, and prior to the shift, was living in a comfortable apartment under Cauldron supervision - Payment for proof as to how to kill an Entity. Further upgrades focus on speed, dexterity, and counteraction.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 11:59 AM
Oh shoot it's Robin!
Is this the same Robin, or a different one?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:00 PM
Question unclear. Please specify 'same Robin.'
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:02 PM
The Robin who participated in 'Forged Esoterica'.
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Hmm, what's up with Invader, then?
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randomhuman44 18-Feb-21 12:02 PM
You can vote Witness and Invader if you want We need 2 defenders.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:03 PM
Point.
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:06 PM
Processing... Data on 'Forged Esoterica' limited. Benefactor 'October' placed the Invader in the project as an interim for 'go home' option in standard jumpchain package. Further contact has not been established.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:08 PM
Might as well get info on everyone before making a choice. Vestige?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:16 PM
The Vestige, real name Jordan Miles, was a courier who wandered the dangerous paths between cities all over the east coast of the United States of America. In that time, he managed to detonate a massive hidden superweapon stockpile under a small village off of Las Vegas in a small pre-war town, defuse a conflict between several vagrant groups wandering the Grand Canyon, break into a previously thought uncrackable pre-war casino surrounded by a toxic gas under threat of bomb collar with multiple unstable individuals, survive becoming the product of several mad pre-war Sparks' science experiment, and save Las Vegas from being destroyed by parahuman warlord codename 'Tyrant' and the army of vagrants he'd assembled and trained. Further upgrades focus on luck, ranged combat, and charisma.
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:17 PM
So Courier 6
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:17 PM
True
So we call him courier or six?
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:17 PM
Usually gets called the Courier
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:17 PM
True
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:17 PM
Not sure what the choice is for but a one man army is always good
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:19 PM
Can we ask about Dreamer?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:20 PM
Yes. Note that data is limited as a new candidate for the Dreamer is being sought out.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:20 PM
Good to know. So, Dreamer?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:27 PM
The Dreamer, real name Catherine Hart was a powerful Shaker Parahuman who found her ability to control anything in her large range insufficient for keeping herself safe. In an act of desperation, she sought out a Spark, Tinker, or anyone else capable enough, specializing in brain surgery to either disable her power, or make it impossible to counter. The Spark ended up breaking the firmament in the process of upgrading her power. No further data past that point. Further upgrades lack a true focus, and can draw from any upgrade pool.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:27 PM
Labyrinth
To unstable
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:28 PM
😬
Poor girl
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:28 PM
Yep
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:28 PM
...And the firmament is cracked. Goodie.
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randomhuman44 18-Feb-21 12:28 PM
So we voting labyrinth?
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:29 PM
Can't.
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randomhuman44 18-Feb-21 12:29 PM
oh yeah
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:29 PM
I vote Courier
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:29 PM
Courier
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:30 PM
We still have no info on Prophet or Subject right now. So, Subject?
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:31 PM
Yeah subject info please
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:37 PM
The Subject, real name Edward Smith is a creation of the biotinker Asgore, meant to go out, gather what resources were possible for his people, and encourage a lack of hostile response via threatening levels of evolution and magical abilities on display. They were also sent out to learn what they could about the rest of humanity, to blend in during peaceful times, and help stabilize unstable regions without giving away Asgore's other goals. Further upgrades focus on increasing the potency of evolution in all aspects, and uncapping growth of power.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:38 PM
Okay not touching this one with a 100 foot pole
Information into the prophet please
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:38 PM
^
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:38 PM
Yeah
What about Prophet?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:45 PM
The Prophet, real name Joan Joestar, triggered at a young age from her community lying to her about what dire straits the world was in. In the aftermath, she was able to piece together things, view the world in a completely different light, and understanding what was really going on outside the walls of her settlement. Her newfound understanding of the underlying patterns in everything gave her an understanding of Parahuman powers, but also allowed her to artificially break through. Her first act to try and save the world was brainwashing the mayor, and it all went downhill from there. Further upgrades improve ability to capitalize on this understanding, and may add things such as precognition, postcognition, scrying, etc.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:46 PM
Oh boy, that's a lot.
First of all, Jojo.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:47 PM
Second of all March brand of crazy
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:47 PM
Second of all, that trigger sure has some Jack Slash vibes, huh?
^
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:47 PM
Yeah
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:47 PM
And third a lot of kephri in there
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:48 PM
Not sure we wanna mess with Jack Slash or Khepri crazy
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:48 PM
I Vite for courier a lot safer (edited)
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:48 PM
To be fair, she does seem to want to save people.
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:48 PM
Note: All defender units are present, regardless of activation.
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:48 PM
I vote Prophet and Courier.
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:48 PM
Ah
Yeah I agree with thay
That*
One man army and precog
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Pika 18-Feb-21 12:49 PM
Prophet and Vestige*
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Awake 18-Feb-21 12:49 PM
Good combo
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 12:50 PM
Yep
Prophet and Vestige
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 12:51 PM
Majority votes for Prophet and Vestige. Activating units...
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 01:08 PM
Achievement 'In The Beginning' applied to the Prophet and the Vestige. Generating rewards...
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 01:08 PM
Wooho
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 01:11 PM
Prophet starting stipend abilities selected. Please choose one. Basic detective package. Basic Thinker package. Basic Inscribed package.
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Awake 18-Feb-21 01:11 PM
I have no idea what any of those are
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 01:12 PM
I say inscribed or Thinker
We want to up her/his craziness or make him move on?
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Awake 18-Feb-21 01:14 PM
Hmm, given they're already a precog, more thinker abilities could help make them more effective, maybe
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 01:14 PM
Yeah but it would also increase his crazy
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Pika 18-Feb-21 01:22 PM
Can we get descriptions of the packages?
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 01:27 PM
Basic detective package: Provides limited combat skills, primarily based in data analysis and mental scene recreation based on currently existing evidence. Basic Thinker package: Provides a Thinker power [shard derivative] that would scale at about a 5 on the PRT rating scale, without room for growth in breadth or depth. For reference, Prophet is a Thinker 9. Basic Inscribed package: Provides an Epithet that starts out weak, but will gradually grow with experience and creativity. Epithet is designed to work alongside preexisting powers.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 01:27 PM
Inscribed
Epithets can be wack
The guy with soup can heal, damage, drug, and a billion of other things
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Awake 18-Feb-21 01:53 PM
Yeah Inscribed
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randomhuman44 18-Feb-21 01:54 PM
I haven't watched that so I have no idea But if a soup word person can heal and drug and stuff it seems pretty open to interpretation lol so i vote inscribed too
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Pika 18-Feb-21 01:56 PM
Inscribed here too. Detective is tempting, but Inscribed is good for future growth.
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 02:04 PM
Basic Inscribed package selected. Details as follows... Inscribed: Record: Prophet gains the epithet Record, an ability that allows her to record things and replay them. At the moment, it is simply able to replay sound in a select, relatively small area, but... Great with Time: With time, experience, and creativity, this epithet will take less stamina, have more potent effects, and can be used more effectively. With backing like this, even a crippling injury would fail to prevent that happening. Gifts of the Inscribed - Slapstick Shoot-Em-Up: You are able to reduce the lethality of weapons, to the point that getting shot in the face might merely break your nose rather than put it's contents on the wall behind it. Works less effectively the less lethal a weapon already is. Can be toggled, but is not selective - Everything in an area around you will be lethal, or nonlethal. Gifts of the Inscribed - Hearty and Healthy: In a fight between epithet users, even a little girl could potentially beat some of the more dangerous users. The reason why? People with Epithets are generally just stronger, healthier, and better in regards to physical condition than those without, though there are exceptions. You aren't superhuman by any means, but you can take a few hits.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:05 PM
Nice
We have Moody Blues jr
And we could have time loops by the end of this
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:06 PM
I say Inscribed is good
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:06 PM
Oh it is
Best part is Conceptual Recording
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randomhuman44 18-Feb-21 02:07 PM
Even with current small application that can be surprisingly useful Use it as an undetectable bug, or if she can extend the range, listen in on people from afar, etc.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:07 PM
I’m it’s tangibly related to the world someday he can use it
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Even with current small application that can be surprisingly useful Use it as an undetectable bug, or if she can extend the range, listen in on people from afar, etc.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:07 PM
Yep
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 02:08 PM
Vestige starting stipend abilities selected. Please choose one. Basic Wild Wastelander package. Basic Mysterious Stranger package. Basic Apocalypse Now package.
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randomhuman44 18-Feb-21 02:09 PM
Basic package descriptions please?
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:09 PM
Ooo those all sound neat
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:10 PM
Yep
I’m inclined for mysterious stranger
And give him a coat and a nice cowboy hat
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 02:12 PM
Basic Wild Wastelander package: Makes things line up so more beneficial oddities cross the path of the Vestige. Basic Mysterious Stranger package: Increases gunslinging skills, heightens accuracy, as well as giving stealth abilities. Basic Apocalypse Now package: Ensures collateral damage occurs both more frequently and beneficially for the Vestige and allies, hindering opponents when it can.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:12 PM
Mysterious Stranger
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:13 PM
Yeah mysterious stranger
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Overlap Project Management System BOT 18-Feb-21 02:22 PM
Basic Mysterious Stranger package selected. Details as follows... Precision Shootin': VATS is a little too imprecise for you, so you're able to focus further. Target someone's Achilles tendon, or graze their jugular, and you'll show that your sight line is something to be feared. High Noon: You're one hell of a quickdraw, able to match up against anyone but those with superhuman speed. Beyond that, your familiarity with guns is on par with a dedicated hobbyist - You'll never leave the safety off if you don't mean to. Stacks with existing skill. Like A Ghost: You're an expert in abusing people's distractions to make a discreet entrance or exit, to the point it's borderline superhuman. Arrive like a gentle breeze, and disappear with as much fanfare once you've gotten what you need to done.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:22 PM
Hell yes
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:23 PM
Nice
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:30 PM
What's all this, then? First the world shifts, then there's a psychic chatroom of some sort. A Spark of some sort would have to be responsible, but I doubt that'd be the reason why all this happened. Unless they had a third break through, maybe...?
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:30 PM
Hello Jojo
We are here to help you
As we have helped your ancestors
By the word of the great Araki we shall guide you
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:35 PM
All things considered, I rather doubt you've directly helped my ancestors, when one takes into account the rougher parts of the family history plus you knowing about said family history in the general rather than specific sense, but you know stories featuring them, and are quite enthusiastic to help me because of them, yes? Hm. That last comment in particular. I ought to monitor my own behavior, see how it shifts in response to you all... Anyways, yes, hello, hi. Forgive the rambling. Got a lot on my mind.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:36 PM
Nice, you have foresight
Try not to end like the zeppelis
But yes we will help you
So what want you to do?
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:39 PM
Long term, I'd like to stop the world from ending in 5-10 years or sooner. Short term, I'd like to solve food, shelter, water, and other such issues.
I'd also like to avoid any local 'heroes' who'd just try to maintain the status quo while mired in bureaucracy, so that's an option for short term solutions out.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:39 PM
So wheres you’re location?
And also world ending is kinda unavoidable right now
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:41 PM
As far as I can tell, I'm in some sort of highly disused trainyard. It's raining, but this isn't the sort that indicates Leviathan. Just a light drizzle. I've taken shelter in a rusted traincar.
I'm aware the world ending is still a big problem that can't be tackled quite yet. There's a lot of fundamental issues I need to tackle to stop it. Thus, long term.
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:42 PM
Some shelter is better than none
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:43 PM
No Like even if you solve all the issues you cannot stop it
The world is not ending because a lot of factors, well it is but there’s another apocalypse (edited)
Which is basically Scion depressed and Jack Slash is really good at talking
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:44 PM
Who's Jack Slash?
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:44 PM
In the original timeline, not sure how fucky this one is
Ah, yeah
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Who's Jack Slash?
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:44 PM
Okay, he had a minor Master/Thinker rating it allows him to communicate perfectly with a Parahuman (edited)
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:44 PM
This one has stuff like Sparks I think
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:44 PM
Also yes
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:44 PM
He was a parahuman serial killer
With parahuman danger sense and the ability to use blades to cut things from a distance
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:46 PM
Had Sparks. Some type of massive shift has likely changed that. That's a problem, but I can think of solutions. Perfect communication can be a weakness, because that requires perception. Still, concerning, I'll need to take some time to brainstorm.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:47 PM
Yep
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:47 PM
Ah, shit, that's not good
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Jordan Miles | Vestige BOT 18-Feb-21 02:50 PM
shit, i don't feel good. what's going on?
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:50 PM
You didnt get shot in the head did you, thatd do it
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:50 PM
Hello courier
Prepare to dance with the Devil under the pale moon? (edited)
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Jordan Miles | Vestige BOT 18-Feb-21 02:51 PM
what?
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:51 PM
You probably shouldn't drink before you get launched into a new world.
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:52 PM
Also a good point
Anyways, hello
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:52 PM
Also we have jojo here she is precognitive
And hello
And she knows a lot of stuff about you
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Jordan Miles | Vestige BOT 18-Feb-21 02:52 PM
...god. dammit. fuckin hate precogs, no offense.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:52 PM
Is fair enough
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:52 PM
None taken. From the sounds of it, I'm not the only Thinker in here.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:52 PM
And just think of this as a more ample MT Big Mountain (edited)
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:53 PM
From the sound of things, our new friends here are worried about your health.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:53 PM
Also that
You still have your coco in place
Or it’s in a jar with the rest
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Jordan Miles | Vestige BOT 18-Feb-21 02:54 PM
just my luck.
i got all my organs in the right places, if that's what you're askin.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:54 PM
Great
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Jordan Miles | Vestige BOT 18-Feb-21 02:55 PM
i'm on some random highway. lotta trees here, i'm noticing.
is that a fuckin dragon off there
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:55 PM
Oh heah
The sex slaver
He is like Cesar
And there’s the Nazi with the name Kaiser
Who want to be like Cesar
And there the junkies making a fiend gang
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:56 PM
Any signs that might show where you are?
Landmark advertisements etc?
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Jordan Miles | Vestige BOT 18-Feb-21 02:57 PM
can't say i know who you're talkin about, but are you sayin the dragon's a nazi sex slaver? oh, traffic sign for turning off to ruby dreams casino. looks like the dragon's down there.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:58 PM
Yep
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Prophet | Joan Joestar BOT 18-Feb-21 02:58 PM
They're bringing up local gang ideologies.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:58 PM
No there’s a dragon sex slaver that is similar to Caesar from the Legion
And a nazi called Kaiser that wants to be like Caesar
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randomhuman44 18-Feb-21 02:58 PM
No The dragon is an asian nazi sex slaver Assuming that hasn't changed because of overlaps
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Jordan Miles | Vestige BOT 18-Feb-21 02:58 PM
i ain't heard of someone called 'caesar', sorry.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:59 PM
You just got out of the tomb?
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Awake 18-Feb-21 02:59 PM
Ruby Dreams Casino, might be a good place to check first
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:59 PM
Maybe
How Asian you look?
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Jordan Miles | Vestige BOT 18-Feb-21 02:59 PM
i can hear somethin headin this way, and the dragon's headin here too.
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Lucky_Plucky21 18-Feb-21 02:59 PM
Well dodge
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